Glad you got it fixed. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Is this normal with these mods? https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Just curious as to what Glock said. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. try firing it. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. BrianEnos.com It may not display this or other websites correctly. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. What load you firing? Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. UPDATE! If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. You must log in or register to reply here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. Great info thank you. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. Your previous content has been restored. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. Nick29 *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? You are using an out of date browser. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. Found the culprit. This did the trick. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. I will look into buying some calipers. Could be ammo related. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Thank you! If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. All Rights Reserved. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I had this with my first gen P80. Your previous content has been restored. Upload or insert images from URL. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. What ammo? In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Maybe he did something to the slide? SJ 40, thank you! BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Upload or insert images from URL. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. No lube should be needed on RSA. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. Will get some pics next time at the range. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. It's working fine now. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. I only shoot factory ammo. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Then compare frames and see what is different. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. If all else fails I'll call Glock. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). Like polishing amounts? can your extractor move freely? Your link has been automatically embedded. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. I will look into it. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Upload or insert images from URL. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. Is this RSA going to $hit already? The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Did you try having someone else shoot it? I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. One new winner* is announced every week! I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. This is only going to be used at the range. I can swap the sli. Thanks. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. The problem is when the slide slams forward. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Oh its not a logical move. - Bren. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. It won't load a round. Thanks for the info. This is only going to be used at the range. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Paste as plain text instead, Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Glocks are pretty simple really. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Powered by Invision Community. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. Just an excuse to try something new. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. January 3, 2004 in Glock. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. What do your used primers look like? Haha. Display as a link instead, One mag in particular was the worst. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. 20+ is for 10mm. No need to clean, just add lube. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. Check for it. Does it function? Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. is your locking block seated correctly? Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. That's been my experience. Is this how it supposed to function? Paste as plain text instead, I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Kinda weird. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. You cannot paste images directly. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. Oct 20, 2013. The tools. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Theyd like to take the Glock to test it in a few times dry functions now as! 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